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Post by Kobza on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 8:04 pm

Human vs Human games 

PA plays -  I am getting sacked immediately
Problems with my oline or someone else have such issue?

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Post by warrior on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:01 pm

I think if someone's  blitzing  and you pa your in trouble.
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Post by Kobza on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:08 pm

@warrior wrote:I think if someone's  blitzing  and you pa your in trouble.

No, regular 4 man rush, dts shed oline in seconds - both dt at least

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Post by Kobza on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:10 pm

No, not is seconds, half of second and I see 3 man near my qb  Smile

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Post by GBDawg1 on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:11 pm

You sure? I find sometimes it happens, but not always. You sure that extra pressure wasn't sent?

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Post by MattyE88 on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:14 pm

One your qb pants with pa rating.
2 blitz
3 prc plays a part
4 pass commit
5 Pblk and IBLk

Any these can contribute

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Post by bapminister on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:23 pm

I really did only send 4 guys, but it was obvious passing downs with pass commit on, and Babineaux is a good DT

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Post by Kobza on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:49 pm

MB I should pinch oline on pa? I guess it just my very weak oline - forcing me to make very bad decisions...

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Post by GBDawg1 on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 9:50 pm

Depends where the pressure is coming from I think. If it's up the middle then yes. If it's everywhere then max protect. But that means your TEs block rather than run routes.

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Post by Kobza on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 10:59 pm

Against random plays defence in practice 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uHu2D46e4A

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Post by MattyE88 on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 1:45 am

Yeh seems a priblem or oline just suck. As you see the oline animated to make look like a run which what pa about but you interior get swim moved quicky

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Post by Kobza on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 8:16 am

@MattyE88 wrote:Yeh seems a priblem or oline just suck. As you see the oline animated to make look like a run which what pa about but you interior get swim moved quicky

I guess so... But again I can understand why LG Thomas and C Martin fail so quick, but RG Boone not so bad...

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Post by GBDawg1 on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 1:23 pm

I've done quite a few of these myself and will upload them when the ps4 has finished uploading each clip at snail's pace

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Post by GBDawg1 on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 1:51 pm

Ok here goes. All these plays were against random defensive plays.

The offensive play in all 3 posts is PA Scissors from I-Form normal

A mixed bag but generally not seeing the penetration through the o-line that Kobza was.












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Post by GBDawg1 on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 1:54 pm

These 5 videos were all against man blitz. Same offensive play as before.










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Post by Kobza on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 1:56 pm

Yeah, whole another story.. So the problem is in my oline Smile

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Post by GBDawg1 on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 1:57 pm

These were all against zone blitz. Same offensive play again.







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Post by MCFCDAP on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 2:18 pm

A faster QB?

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Post by Kobza on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 2:21 pm

@MCFCDAP wrote:A faster QB?

Dont think so, with Colin was the same. I ll try today to put the best pass block oline I have and test it, cause now its more run blocking oline

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Post by Kobza on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 4:45 pm

So probably the problem in two things, LG and C have 78 pass block (but RG Boone with 84 pass block doing the same) and 70 pa qb I guess...

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Post by MattyE88 on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 5:54 pm

Are those all done with our sliders dawg?

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Post by GBDawg1 on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 6:52 pm

Yes they should be. It was in general practice (note McCown was QB) although I might repeat it tomorrow in free practice in franchise mode (although will be Browns defense, obviously)

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Post by Kobza on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 6:56 pm

@GBDawg1 wrote:Yes they should be. It was in general practice (note McCown was QB) although I might repeat it tomorrow in free practice in franchise mode (although will be Browns defense, obviously)

Could you pls try practice in franchise mode? Cause I have such problem only with niners in this league...

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Post by JR90RFC on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 7:21 pm

From my personal experience I've felt the play action has never worked the way it is intended too.

I could've ran 28 times in a row for 204 yards, have the defence in the box and the minute I try play action they won't commit.

Others may have different results, but then I can't remember the last time I tried a play action pass.
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Post by tru11 on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 7:46 pm

its a combination of your QB PA, the o-line pass blocking/impact blocking and your opponent playing the pass, contain QB and the players rushing PRC.

TBH if you contain QB you wont even need to play the pass cause the outside guys will run to the QB righ away.

but in this game you need at least 80 PA to sell it and i think 85+ to get a decend amount of time to throw

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