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Whats the matter monkey? Is it only the Patriots allowed to be hyped to death every year??

Shaz think its far too little too late for your Hawks, the Lions and Clowns only need 1 more win to clinch. Still wish you took that turnstile of a RT in the 1st instead of Dalton?

As for Lynch this week was "hardly out of his mind" 20 carries for 42 yards but hey he got 2 TDs so great fantasy score Plus he could very well end up being the typical contract year player. Remember the last Running back who had a career year then you smashed the big money to Shaz?

Oh and surely David Garrard on one leg is better than Caleb Hanie?? He is AWFUL!

GBDawg1 wrote:Yeah Tebow sucks. What is he ? 6-1 or is it 7-1? Useless.

7-2.

The 2 good offenses that the Broncos have faced since Tebow took over, have both put up 40 on them.

And the Pats have put up 30+ in the last 6 weeks. To very little hype whatsoever.

And finally, I took the Chiefs in my pick'em games and on Twitter too. They have a very good Pass D. They have a very loud stadium. They had a decent Line and Receivers. They just needed a capable QB. Orton was near-perfect.

The Chiefs could be very good when Charles, Moeaki and Berry are back.

So he's responsible for the defense now as well, eh?

runaway cart runs over coach after the game at Cowboys stadium
http://bostinno.com/2011/12/18/runaway-cart-runs-down-coaches-after-texas-high-school-championship-football-game-video/

patriotscpfc wrote:

GBDawg1 wrote:Yeah Tebow sucks. What is he ? 6-1 or is it 7-1? Useless.

7-2.

The 2 good offenses that the Broncos have faced since Tebow took over, have both put up 40 on them.

And the Pats have put up 30+ in the last 6 weeks. To very little hype whatsoever.

lol We had like 130yds rushing in the 1stQ till BigWillie went out hurt and got UL( but got someGL last game to even it out ) on a few turnovers, so im happy with the way are ''TEAM'' played. Also Tebow had another good game and is getting better(what more can you ask from a young QB ) and getting some nice linkup play with are young WRs Decker and Thomas. So with 2 games left (@Bills vrs KC)we only need to win vrs KC to win the AFC West, but i think we win both and are deserving all the ''HYPE'' IMO, as no1 thought we would get more than 4wins this season.Now we are favs to win the AFC West and make the playoffs.This season Tebow is 7W-2L, 107-220pass att, 1484yds, 11TDs, 2INTs, 106att, 610yds 5TDs 3fumblost, so thats a 16-5 TD to turnover difference how can you not love them stats for a young QB .



The NE Prats get hype every year and your O needs to put 30+pnts up or they won't win. To say you put up 30+pnts in the last 6games sounds good till you look at it lol 41-23 vrs Den, 34-27 vrs Skins, 31-24 vrs Colts, 38-20vrs Phi, 34-3 vrs KC, 37-16 Vrs NYJ, Now if you look at them games thats nowt special IMO, as most ov them teams are under .500 and were close games.

GBDawg1 wrote:So he's responsible for the defense now as well, eh?

The Tebow haters will find someway to knock him

scousebronco wrote:

patriotscpfc wrote:

GBDawg1 wrote:Yeah Tebow sucks. What is he ? 6-1 or is it 7-1? Useless.

7-2.

The 2 good offenses that the Broncos have faced since Tebow took over, have both put up 40 on them.

And the Pats have put up 30+ in the last 6 weeks. To very little hype whatsoever.

lol We had like 130yds rushing in the 1stQ till BigWillie went out hurt and got UL( but got someGL last game to even it out ) on a few turnovers, so im happy with the way are ''TEAM'' played. Also Tebow had another good game and is getting better(what more can you ask from a young QB ) and getting some nice linkup play with are young WRs Decker and Thomas. So with 2 games left (@Bills vrs KC)we only need to win vrs KC to win the AFC West, but i think we win both and are deserving all the ''HYPE'' IMO, as no1 thought we would get more than 4wins this season.Now we are favs to win the AFC West and make the playoffs.This season Tebow is 7W-2L, 107-220pass att, 1484yds, 11TDs, 2INTs, 106att, 610yds 5TDs 3fumblost, so thats a 16-5 TD to turnover difference how can you not love them stats for a young QB .



The NE Prats get hype every year and your O needs to put 30+pnts up or they won't win. To say you put up 30+pnts in the last 6games sounds good till you look at it lol 41-23 vrs Den, 34-27 vrs Skins, 31-24 vrs Colts, 38-20vrs Phi, 34-3 vrs KC, 37-16 Vrs NYJ, Now if you look at them games thats nowt special IMO, as most ov them teams are under .500 and were close games.

You had 3 good drives. Then (as the players have pointed out), the gameplan was ripped up and thanks to a long drive by the Offense, a new gameplan was put in place by Matt Patricia (and Belichick). That slowed the team down. 2 of the turnovers weren't luck. They were Forced Fumbles. It's a Defensive play...

As for the Defenses. Chiefs Pass D is very good. Jets Pass D is normally very good. Redskins D has only allowed 1 300yd passer all year - Brady. Broncos D is supposed to be great yet got run over by the Riddler and Woody as well as by Brady and Hernandz.

Hanie And Bears Offense Sucks !!!
Obviously our 2 best players out tho

As a packers fan, i'm really happy for the Lions. Now we have to won only another game, at lambeau. To say goodbye to da Bears...

patriotscpfc wrote:

scousebronco wrote:

patriotscpfc wrote:

GBDawg1 wrote:Yeah Tebow sucks. What is he ? 6-1 or is it 7-1? Useless.

7-2.

The 2 good offenses that the Broncos have faced since Tebow took over, have both put up 40 on them.

And the Pats have put up 30+ in the last 6 weeks. To very little hype whatsoever.

lol We had like 130yds rushing in the 1stQ till BigWillie went out hurt and got UL( but got someGL last game to even it out ) on a few turnovers, so im happy with the way are ''TEAM'' played. Also Tebow had another good game and is getting better(what more can you ask from a young QB ) and getting some nice linkup play with are young WRs Decker and Thomas. So with 2 games left (@Bills vrs KC)we only need to win vrs KC to win the AFC West, but i think we win both and are deserving all the ''HYPE'' IMO, as no1 thought we would get more than 4wins this season.Now we are favs to win the AFC West and make the playoffs.This season Tebow is 7W-2L, 107-220pass att, 1484yds, 11TDs, 2INTs, 106att, 610yds 5TDs 3fumblost, so thats a 16-5 TD to turnover difference how can you not love them stats for a young QB .



The NE Prats get hype every year and your O needs to put 30+pnts up or they won't win. To say you put up 30+pnts in the last 6games sounds good till you look at it lol 41-23 vrs Den, 34-27 vrs Skins, 31-24 vrs Colts, 38-20vrs Phi, 34-3 vrs KC, 37-16 Vrs NYJ, Now if you look at them games thats nowt special IMO, as most ov them teams are under .500 and were close games.

You had 3 good drives. Then (as the players have pointed out), the gameplan was ripped up and thanks to a long drive by the Offense, a new gameplan was put in place by Matt Patricia (and Belichick). That slowed the team down. 2 of the turnovers weren't luck. They were Forced Fumbles. It's a Defensive play...

As for the Defenses. Chiefs Pass D is very good. Jets Pass D is normally very good. Redskins D has only allowed 1 300yd passer all year - Brady. Broncos D is supposed to be great yet got run over by the Riddler and Woody as well as by Brady and Hernandz.

was that tebows biggest knock lol.

he only winnin because of that elite defense

Denver wins then it's because of Tebow, but when they lose it's because of the D. Nice.

Also, John Skelton has a record of 5-1. But maybe he needs to have a spaz throwing motion and rely on gimmick plays with the occasional pose on the sidelines for the cameras.

Tebow may be a good guy and it may all be genuine, but he is not a good QB and never will be. Does anyone actually believe that teams wont start shutting him down after a season?

I think we have a good chance of the playoffs. Detroit is playing San Diego and Green Bay, two very tough teams. They can definitely lose those games. Raiders should have won yesterday We've two tough games aswell though.

Lynch had an average game yesterday but has been amazing the past few weeks. I had my reservations about Lynch aswell but he's won me over. He had trouble with the law before Seattle but there hasn't been a hint of bother since coming to Seattle. He refuses to be interviewed as he wants the spotlight on the OL not him. He's basically gotten 1000 yards in half a season all with an OL that has 3 backups on it. His improved play is due to improved the OL blocking (Thank you Tom Cable) and losing 20 pounds. He's much quicker at hitting the holes now. I'd love to resign him at a reasonable 3/4 year contract but not a top dollar RB contact for 5 years.  

adundeemonkey wrote:Denver wins then it's because of Tebow, but when they lose it's because of the D. Nice.

Also, John Skelton has a record of 5-1. But maybe he needs to have a spaz throwing motion and rely on gimmick plays with the occasional pose on the sidelines for the cameras.

Tebow may be a good guy and it may all be genuine, but he is not a good QB and never will be. Does anyone actually believe that teams wont start shutting him down after a season?

LMAO Monkey there a few QBs who don't have a idea NFL QB throwing motion ie SD QB P Rivers.No one is saying its coz are D wasn't playing good is why(but you cant give up 40pnts in the NFL and expect to win) we lost but Tebow and the O (an if BigWillie wouldn't have got hurt we would have had a better chance to win) put up enuf points to win most NFL games, so to say Tebow will never be a good QB is just showing how much you know about the NFL an like all Tebow haters your ignorance. Also if Skelton is so good and lead the cards to a 5-1 record why isn't he still playing?? + the fact every1 said Tebow couldn't play QB in the NFL(an he has prove so far he can and he has what it takes to be a NFL QB) and is a gr8 leader, is why he is getting so much hype and IMO it's not like he has done anything wrong other than prove all you haters wrong so you can .

Er - he (Skelton) did play yesterday Scouse (I witnessed the Browns finding yet another way to lose) and he looked pretty good. Our pass rush when we only rush 4 is non-existent though....

I seem to remember a couple of seasons ago the Dolphins bringing back the Wildcard and the buzz was how it was back for good and was going to change the way football was played. But after a few games catching teams cold who were not prepared for it, they eventually got found out.

The same will happen to Tebow. I'm not a 'hater', I'm just a realist lol

The guy is a gimmick. You guys seem to forgetting yout have a weaker schedule due to you sucking last season and the two times he has came up against a decent side he has struggled. He is a walking circus and people will get bored of it pretty soon and then the media will turn on him. He seems to get a pass for mistakes, while other guys get attacked for it. Some of his passes last night were horrific. So bad that i have never seen another QB throw balls like that. He just flat out missed, but you had Sims going on about how that is because he doesnt want a int! Well throwing it 5yrds away from the WR and CB is going to make sure of that!

adundeemonkey wrote:I seem to remember a couple of seasons ago the Dolphins bringing back the Wildcard and the buzz was how it was back for good and was going to change the way football was played. But after a few games catching teams cold who were not prepared for it, they eventually got found out.

The same will happen to Tebow. I'm not a 'hater', I'm just a realist lol

The guy is a gimmick. You guys seem to forgetting yout have a weaker schedule due to you sucking last season and the two times he has came up against a decent side he has struggled. He is a walking circus and people will get bored of it pretty soon and then the media will turn on him. He seems to get a pass for mistakes, while other guys get attacked for it. Some of his passes last night were horrific. So bad that i have never seen another QB throw balls like that. He just flat out missed, but you had Sims going on about how that is because he doesnt want a int! Well throwing it 5yrds away from the WR and CB is going to make sure of that!

Yes the Dolphins did use the WC and the reason it stoped working, was no1 ever had a player like Tebow passing or running (we aren't even running the WC or option offence. We are using them in are PB and again Tebow is becoming a better passer each week) out the WC that is why it got stopped. To say we have a weak schedule is funny As we was only expected to win 2-4 games this season as we was a weak team same with the Bungals but like every year in the NFL bad teams become good same with the good teams. LMFAO he didn't struggle vrs the NEPrats, it's a team game and you need good offence and defence an help from ST to win games (are you sure you watch games monkey ). So he makes some bad throws but he is throwing less ov them each week and he has 11TDs 2INTs, so his bad throws aren't ending in turnovers, what more can you ask from a young QB who is still learning.

So many young QB's come into the league and look good. We have some Bucs fans who I am sure will remember Bruce Gradowski's first 4-5 games, went 4-1 and everyone thought he was going to be great.

Then the opponents actually had some game tape to work with and as with the Miami wildcat approach, they set about working out how to cancel it out.

Teebow is a gimmick at QB. He will win games for sure, this season, maybe even next season. But at the end of the day, the researchers and defensive co-ordinators in this league are going to be better at their jobs then he is at his. And that is the constant battle. And it is one he is definitely going to lose. He will probably start for a while longer but if Denver had any sense they would cash him in at the end of this season, before his talents are completely nullified and he becomes an expensive one trick pony they roll out for 2 point conversions

nev-d83 wrote:So many young QB's come into the league and look good. We have some Bucs fans who I am sure will remember Bruce Gradowski's first 4-5 games, went 4-1 and everyone thought he was going to be great.

Then the opponents actually had some game tape to work with and as with the Miami wildcat approach, they set about working out how to cancel it out.

Teebow is a gimmick at QB. He will win games for sure, this season, maybe even next season. But at the end of the day, the researchers and defensive co-ordinators in this league are going to be better at their jobs then he is at his. And that is the constant battle. And it is one he is definitely going to lose. He will probably start for a while longer but if Denver had any sense they would cash him in at the end of this season, before his talents are completely nullified and he becomes an expensive one trick pony they roll out for 2 point conversions

So you must be worried about Cam ??

scousebronco wrote:

nev-d83 wrote:So many young QB's come into the league and look good. We have some Bucs fans who I am sure will remember Bruce Gradowski's first 4-5 games, went 4-1 and everyone thought he was going to be great.

Then the opponents actually had some game tape to work with and as with the Miami wildcat approach, they set about working out how to cancel it out.

Teebow is a gimmick at QB. He will win games for sure, this season, maybe even next season. But at the end of the day, the researchers and defensive co-ordinators in this league are going to be better at their jobs then he is at his. And that is the constant battle. And it is one he is definitely going to lose. He will probably start for a while longer but if Denver had any sense they would cash him in at the end of this season, before his talents are completely nullified and he becomes an expensive one trick pony they roll out for 2 point conversions

So you must be worried about Cam ??

Not in the least. Because he is sitting in the pocket, making passes, checking off defenders. You know, the stuff real QB's do, the stuff of QB's who last more than 2 years in the league.

I am not saying that he is going to be Peyton Manning, far too early to tell, but I do know that he is ticking every box possible for so early in his career.